A Conversation with Charity Williams | Kingdom Creativity Series, Pt. 3

What if your creativity wasn’t just a talent, but an avenue for divine encounter? In this third episode of our Kingdom Creativity series, Michele chats with Charity Williams of Hope Words to explore how kingdom creativity bypasses mental filters and hits the heart straight on. From healings sparked by paintings to spontaneous salvation through freestyle rap, we explore how creativity is far more than art — it’s a conduit for heaven to manifest on earth. 

We also challenge the narrow way that we often define creativity. Whether you’re a DJ, a coder, an engineer, a gelato-scooper, or an entrepreneur, your creative expression matters. When you create from divine connection, you carry transformation into every space you touch. 

This conversation is your permission slip to go ALL IN. Try things. Make messes! You don’t have to be awesome, you just have to be available. Tune in and discover how your creativity can become a vessel for kingdom breakthrough. 

CONNECT WITH CHARITY! 

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Hope Words on Instagram 

Hope Words on YouTube 

Charity and Michele discovered on this call that they had both been impacted by Theresa Dedmon’s Create Academy in each of their creative journeys! Explore Theresa Dedmon’s Create Academy (discussed on today’s show) right here. 

To visit the gelato and dessert cafe that Charity mentioned on today’s episode, check out House of Glory in Grants Pass, Oregon! Who can resist gelato and Jesus?! YUM!

Chapters

• 0:00 Happy Friyay!
• 0:26 Art Reaches Beyond Words
• 2:26 Healing Through Creative Expression
• 5:03 Permission To Create Freely and Imperfectly
• 6:44 A Broader Definition of Kingdom Creativity
• 10:43 Closing Encouragement from Charity

Transcript

Michele: 0:00

It's Friyay, June 27th, and this is Today's Kus Word. Welcome to Today's Kus Word. I'm Michele Kus, your spiritual growth coach, coming back at you on Friday with another conversation with my friend, Charity Williams, the founder of Hope Words Ministry. We're talking about kingdom creativity. It's been an awesome few weeks. Let's dive back in.

Charity: 0:26

I think that art, specifically, you know creativity, that artistic expression, like you just said, it reaches beyond where words can reach and it touches the spirit of a person.

Charity: 0:41

It goes into the very spirit of a of a person and and lets them encounter spirit to spirit. You know God and and it's like no words are said, you just know, you just, you just encounter Him, you just feel it, you just there's this knowing in that encounter that just transforms. You know that where words go through filters, they go through, they go through life experiences, they go through belief systems and you know, all that garbage, that kind of gets us tangled in knots. But like an artistic expression, it just goes past that. It just, it cuts right past it and there's no, there's no filter, because you're just, you're in awe and you're in wonder of what you're watching, what you're seeing. You can experience it and you know I think that's that's part of why I'm so passionate about creativity is because it, it, it cuts past all of our, our walls and our boundaries and our, our blocks and our belief systems and you know, and all those filters, it just slices right past it and gets to that spirit, you know, and it's just, it makes that impact. It's like an arrow that just gets drawn and just, you know it's so fast and it's so sharp that it just it goes in so easily, and I think that's you know.

Charity: 2:04

We were talking about creativity from a kingdom perspective versus creativity that the world creates, and I think that that's one of the differences is that, you know, kingdom creativity is spirit to spirit and it impacts spirit to spirit and it, you know, like your daughter, draws people in in a way that they don't understand. Like I'm looking at this painting and all you know, like your daughter, draws people in in a way that they don't understand. Like I'm looking at this painting and all of a sudden my headache went away. I don't understand why, why, why did my headache leave when I looked at this painting? You know why, when I watched this, this dancer, move and flow, all of a sudden my hip pain went away and now I can move. You know it's like, cause there's healing in the room. You know it's just and it's it's that creative expression. Um, yeah, it has power, that's awesome, that's amazing.

Michele: 2:55

Yeah, that what you said right there is going to blow some people's minds that you could watch a dancer and suddenly my hip pain is gone. I can look at this painting and suddenly my headache is gone. And there's so many stories. I've heard so many stories, particularly from Theresa Dedmon.

Charity: 3:14

Yes!

Michele: 3:15

Are you connected with her?

Charity: 3:17

Yes, yes, I love her! Yes.

Michele: 3:20

She has so many stories like that, and she has this Create Academy that I was a part of for a while.

Charity: 3:30

Yeah, oh. So the Kingdom Creativity was her original, like her books, from way back when she first started that my friend was teaching and that's kind of where I started to come alive and be awakened to kingdom creativity, so that was like my beginning. So I'm like, yes, go Theresa!

Charity: 3:49

That's amazing.

Michele: 3:50

Awesome. And she actually came to my previous church, Greater Chicago Church. She came in, I want to say, 2014, and we did a conference and she spoke there and she told all these stories about how people were healed and delivered and set free just from creative expressions. And the one I'll never forget is one this guy was rapping, freestyle rapping, and someone gave their lives to the Lord listening to this rapper. He was, this guy was rapped into the kingdom.

Charity: 4:27

That's amazing!

Michele: 4:31

So, yeah, she has. I'll link Theresa Dedmon's stuff in the show notes as well.

Charity: 4:38

Definitely!

Michele: 4:40

That's really really great resources for kingdom creatives. Or, if you just want to dig deeper into this subject of kingdom creativity, it's endless. Right, Charity?

Charity: 4:50

Endless. Yeah, yeah, she's amazing. I absolutely love her ministry. It's, yeah, definitely dive in, dive all the way in. It's worth it, definitely yeah.

Michele: 5:03

I think the biggest thing for me is when I heard her speak and say all these things that I, personally, was in the season of my life when I was taking DJ lessons and I was just starting to figure out how to DJ and I'm like is this okay? Is this like legit? Is this okay in church? And of course, my church was like let's try all the things, you know?

Charity: 5:26

That's good.

Michele: 5:27

You know just super. There was a lot of freedom there to just be who you are and you know, if a mess was made, then we just clean up the mess.

Charity: 5:36

Yeah, right!

Michele: 5:38

I remember she just gave so much permission, like to all the creatives in the room, like, if God has put something on your heart, try it! Just try it. There's just something about having that open permission. It doesn't have to be perfect, you don't even have to be good. When I started DJing in 2014, I wasn't really that good. You get better as you do it. But it's like is this fun? Is this a way that I can express how God has made me?

Charity: 6:15

Yeah, yeah.

Charity: 6:19

Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. And there is room. There's always room for improvement and growth, but, like you said, we don't have to be perfect to step out and just do it. Yeah.

Michele: 6:33

And don't even have to be an artist, like we've been talking about painting and dance and music and rapping and all of those things. But I mean even kingdom creativity could be innovation, having new ideas, a business idea, a book idea, yeah.

Charity: 6:54

Yeah, it's, I have.

Charity: 6:56

Um, there's a couple that moved um from Florida to our church and, um, they just felt like God drew them here and of all the places, you know that God took them all the way from Miami, Florida to here. You know that God took them all the way from Miami Florida to here and they opened up a business and in their business it's, it's all about Jesus, literally like everything's about Jesus and they, they pray for people, they host worship nights, they and it's an ice cream shop. Like people come there for a sweet treat and they, they, they encounter heaven, you know, and so it's like that's creativity, if I've ever seen it, you know, like we're going to get people in here for this amazing gelato and this amazing food and this you know, and then we're going to just douse them with the Spirit and like they're going to leave knowing that there was something different about that place. Like that's creativity. Creativity like in, in a different form, and an out of the box, like, and I think you know, I think we, we, we relate creativity so often to the arts and it's so much more than that. I mean, our phones, our technology wouldn't exist, we wouldn't be able to do this had not someone created it. That's creativity.

Charity: 8:18

You know the mind to understand the code, to write the programs. Like. Like I have another friend who's a brilliant business owner and this guy is, I mean he's, he's right, he had the codes that he writes. Though the way that he puts programs, I mean it's just mind boggling. And I'm like you're like literally one of the most creative people I've ever met and I don't understand it and I don't know how you do it and I don't know how you track all of this, because my brain just wants to explode. But I'm like that's creativity if I've ever seen it, like you know, and and I think I think it's time, I mean I think it's time to like give creatives in the arts you know the arts creatives the room and the permission to play and to be, but also to give business people, the engineers, the you know those people that are just so smart and so talented permission to come under that umbrella too.

Charity: 9:18

Like you're creative, you know God, put that inside of you, your blow, blow the world apart in your creativity and do the things because we need it. We need that innovation. We need those business ideas, we need those inventions, like create it with all that you are and don't be afraid to just run after it, because God did put it in your heart and God is speaking to you and it is kingdom creativity, even if it looks like you know a business idea or a program, software building, you know, or whatever it would be. I think we have to take the stereotypes off of what kingdom creativity is and allow more people in and let them realize that they are creative and that they do have value. And it's okay if it looks different, you know, and not be. Well, you're not an artist, you know. So you're not really a creative. No! Yeah you are! You as a DJ, it's like you know.

Charity: 10:21

Your question of is this okay in the church? Like, is this, you know how many creatives? I think that goes back to what I was talking about of like, if there's no space, the creatives go and they find somewhere else that will let them feel like they're at home, let them express themselves, because we need to, we must. You know, God designed us with that vision and that dream in our heart, and so we must find that place that we can create and be and feel at home. And you know, I, just, I just pray over the churches that they are, you know, more open, that they become more open to that creativity and that creative expression and to the possibility that creativity has value and it has kingdom value and people encounter God through it! They get healed through it! They get free through it! It's so important.

Michele: 11:09

It is so important, and I love what Charity shared there about not limiting kingdom creativity to just the arts, but including things like business ownership and engineering and inventing new technology.

Michele: 11:33

All of that comes under the umbrella of kingdom creativity, because it all comes from that creative spirit that is in each and every one of you. You all carry that creative spirit because God made you creative! Amen? So you can no longer say I'm not creative. You are, my friend, and that is what I got for you today. I hope you loved this third part in our Kingdom Creativity Teaching Series and, if you did, make sure you share it with a friend and make sure you connect with Charity and everything she's doing. I have dropped the links to her website and all of her socials down in the show notes, so make sure you check those out. And next week I will be wrapping up my conversation with Charity and wrapping up this series on Kingdom Creativity, so make sure you're following this podcast on your favorite platform so you don't miss it. Thanks so much for joining me today and until next time, have an awesome day.